He was a ruthless persecutor who sought to stop what he saw as an aberration within Judaism. The term To sit at the feet of a Rav is a term in Judaism for a man (13-20) to know the first five books and the Oral law by memory. Since the garage is smaller, we can finish that quicker. Gamaliel is reported to have offered somewhat lenient advice concerning the early preaching of the apostles in Acts 5:34-39. it was mandatory for all males at some point to go to yeshiva this applies to Yeshua and his disciples as well. Second, Gamaliel taught between A.D. 22-55, so we can get an approximate early date for Pauls education. (Paul said so is one witness, but you need to establish every matter by the testimony of two or three witnesses. I want to bring my hippie friends to church- but how to I explain to them that its taboo to mention Pauls sins and doctrinal errors in church? Paul had decided to preach to gentiles apparently out of his own revelatory experience that this was the mission that had been given him by God when God called him to function as a prophet for this new Jesus movement. Neither Paul, nor James, nor Luke were with Jesus and the Apostles the whole time, so they were not qualified to be a witness with the Apostles of Jesus resurrection, which is what it means to be an Apostle. Paul is the model pastor for many modern Pauls like; a) Bob Coy, who still owns all the assets and controls all the money at his cult known as Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale, in spite of his recent resignation as Senior Pastor there due to adultery with multiple woman and other major sins that he still has never specifically admitted to personally. Maybe there is someone I could bounce this off, to get some ideas. I need to refine that. In reality youd be considered a Judaizer ( an no its not what Christians think it is because that definition is clearly wrong) and thrown out of the synagogues. If you continue to post long rambling and inaccurate responses I will ban you from the site. Somehow Barnabas who was at the Pentecost knew Saul! Or you are playing fast and loose with the word talmud. Sticking with Acts, Gamaliel counsels caution in Acts 5, Rabbi Saul seems to abandon caution by Acts 7. They didnt celebrate easter, christmas, saunday. Gamaliel II, also called Gamaliel Of Jabneh, (flourished 2nd century ad), nasi (president) of the Sanhedrin, at that time the supreme Jewish legislative body, in Jabneh, whose greatest achievement was the unification of the important Jewish laws and rituals in a time of external oppression by Rome and internecine . Minhags- customs attached to moses and the oral law to make them valid that were infact against Torah and corrupt. Perhaps you can contribute some insight? [23] The Orthodox church also venerates Gamaliel as a saint, where he is commemorated on August 2, the date when tradition states that his relics were found, along with those of the Apostle and Protomartyr Stephen and Nicodemus. I can back up my view with plenty of Scripture here is just one, written by the Apostle Peter- 2 Peter 3:2. Gods commandments are found in the Law of Moses and the Prophets, which Jesus came to FULFILL, (not to abolish, as the false apostle Paul the Pharisee taught.) .b) What about the so-called Great Commission? Those educational credentials allowed Paul to preach in the synagogues wherever he traveled (see Acts 17:2 ). 1. A scribe would be among the most highly educated in Judaism, and since at the feet of Gamaliel implies a mentoring relationship, it seems to me that a near-equivalent would be a serious specialized Masters Program, if not a PhD. Thats the short version of my definition of what is an Apostle.. TWO. When Hillel died, his son Simeon assumed his position, but Simeon died shortly after he took office. There is more to Sauls violence than preaching Jesus as Messiah. Which one is it? Or is it possible that Paul privately harbored more overall agreement with Gamaliel/Hillel than with Shammaite Pharisees, and that Paul felt himself to be a lone dissenter in rare cases (Christians) against his former masters legal hermeneutics of mercy? This notion is wrong. I would think that he would include that in his self-description as the chief of sinners. Just open the Gospels, especially Mathew, which has you in mind, and listen to the voice of Yeshua. So youd rather channel Constantine, anti semetic church fathers and bad book from amazon from authors who know absolutely nothing about Judaism or what they are even reading. Luke writes: They cast [Stephen] out of the city and stoned him. The notion was given classic expression only a little more than a century ago by the biblical scholar John William Burgon. To which Paul replied, youre fired. Paul then took his team of painters, and started painting the garage and the house. In my reading, it would seem that many doubt the claim that one as zealous as Paul could not have sat at the feet of Gamaliel. 1. If probably, then how would we know whether Paul ever pulled a rare Justice Rehnquist move, where Rehnquist sides with liberal Justices and dissents against conservatives in weird and inexplicable single cases or two? Paul was accustomed to learning from his elders as he developed as a Pharisee (Galatians 1:14). Paul was in Jerusalem from the age of 3 (under Gamaliel), so to assume he already knew how to WRITE Greek would be fallacious.. What does Josephus say about Gamaliel? The Acts of the 12 Apostles arent even Canonical but some trash letters that have brought nothing good to the world are exalted as scripture, which is because Paul says scripture in it, which actually is equal to Aggadah and not inspired or less important. Once you have taken the covenant you are native born. This is not true, you have no idea what you are talking about. Which is the most important? We can know Gods will. We need to carry this out, with our own God-given abilities and talents, using the skills, and circumstances we have. What does tents mean in the Bible? 3) the apostle Paul prides himself on having sat at the feet of Gamaliel. I am not at all sure you have read my article accurately, nor really spent much time on this site reading the things I post here. Its called Islam and it is True Religion and the fastest growing religion on earth because people are realizing that Christianity is built on a foundation of lies and the religion of the Nazarenes and Ebionites is preserved in Islam. Gamaliel was a Pharisee and a grandson of the famous Rabbi Hillel. Gamaliel, as it appears, did most toward establish-. This has literally been the Orthodox position for almost 2000 years. Dang, I wrote that and didnt respond to your last point. As has been said multiple times above, it is fairly common for a pupil to break off from his teachers opinion. But Pauls teachings drive one up the wall. Gamaliel taught between A.D. 22-55, giving us an approximate early date for Paul's education. Its not easy for me now in 1973, as a young man just trying to start out in ministry. He was raised in a Jewish society and home because everyone in the entire New Testament are Jews (or converts) who followed Torah. Sometimes, Paul was wrong. Who was Paul taught under? First off reading the first paragraph, his human teachers and influences matter almost as much as guidance by the Holy Spirit did. Yes youre a cookie cutter christian typing up Constantine derivative nonese. Needless to say, many still revere Philomena and Christopher as saints. Jesus came to fulfill Law and Prophets and He will. Your comments are ridiculous and borderline stupidity. Polhill observes that several rulings of Gamaliel appear in the Mishnah, mostly having to do with marriage and divorce. Gamaliel is mentioned a couple of times in Scripture as a famous and well-respected teacher. If I did something it MUST be right Dont use the Scripture to shed any light Dont do as I say, do as I do and then you can be a Pharisee too. The blog started as a supplement to teaching through Acts at my church, then later college classes. This powerful conversion led Paul to give his life to the mission of building up the church and furthering the kingdom of God. In practical terms, regarding texts of the Bible, that means that the most important words are the words of Jesus recorded by The Apostles Matthew and John (closely followed by Mark) in my view. Polhil states that perhaps around the age of fourteen to sixteen Paul went to Jerusalem to study under Gamaliel (Acts 22:3), (30). Perhaps Gamiliels views influenced Pauls personal comments on marriage in 1 Corinthians 7 (Polhill, Paul and his Letters, 30). Paul = "little". We'll address more of this in a moment. Paul states hes a Pharisee Acts 23:6 Paul States he kept Torah, the law through out his life Acts 25:7-8 and 28:17, Paul circumcises Timothy after the town rebukes Timothy for going into ministry uncircumcised (Acts 16:1-3) Paul attends synogogue faithfully (acts 17:1-2) Paul adhering to Passover (acts 18:21-22 and 1 Cor. The Middle East is very unstable. That is OK, if it is not handy then I can look it up myself. But Ive branched out into quite a few other books of the New Testament, and some Old Testament as well as frequent book reviews. By claiming to have been under the teaching of this particular rabbi, Paul is claiming to have been educated in a most impressive way. No, I DONT want Paul to act like a Pope controlling all aspects of the church from a distance yet reading Pauls 2 letters to the church, it is clear to me this is exactly what he was doing. The later evidence of the Mishnah implies an Aramaic commentary on the Hebrew Bible, but that dates to AD 250. I did not see this question before, sorry. As a result, Paul calls Peter a hypocrite for following Maase HaTorah or in English Works of the Law instead of what following what the Torah actually stated. Long has taught full time at Grace Christian University since 1998, specializing in Bible and Biblical languages. And even if Matthias was physically absent at that particular occasion, Jesus is still establishing the basic qualification for having one of the twelve thrones as being you who have followed me, not someone who will follow Jesus in the future, like Paul, James, Luke or anyone else in the world. (Matthew 27:45). On page 38 Polhil writes, Paul certainly showed more the attitude of the zealots than of Gamaliel. Polhil also mentions in Phillipians 3:5-6, Paul refers to his persecuting in close connection with his zeal for the law. Polhil then mentions that a modern Zionist would have a yearning for the independence of the nation and the restoration of the glory of the temple by the Messiah. After reading our sections it seems to me that although Paul studied under Gamaliel, his actions resembled more closely to the Shammaite party. My buddy has a new friend from a Baptist background that seems really smart and good with words. N. T. Wright describes the Shammaite Pharisee as a militant hard-liner that was not willing to work with Rome as long as they could study the Torah, as Hillel had said (What Saint Paul Really Said, 26). In his letters to the Corinthians he says, To the weak I became weak, that I might win the weak. How long was Paul in Arabia? On analogy to Supreme Court Justices dissenting in limited and specific cases (anomolies) as a dissenting minority against a majority with whom the dissent would normally agree? There is also a fair bit of controversy about Paul. Deuteronomy 29:29. Gamaliel In the Christian tradition, Gamaliel is recognized as a Pharisee doctor of Jewish Law. People tend to forget that Yeshua himself stated that we are to listen to the Pharisees for they sit in the seat of Moses. The answer to that question is, they have been listening to the voice of Paul, rather than the voices of Jesus and the Original Apostles. He uses these references quite often throughout many of his books in the NT. His most recent book is The Book of Enoch for Beginners: A Guide to Expand Your Understanding of the Biblical World (Rockridge, 2022). No one in the pages of the Bible ever said or wrote that all Scripture, or the Bible, is all truly Gods words. You can read Peters advice for yourself- then open your Bible to Matthew, John, Revelation, and Mark, and listen to Jesus for yourself! Paul undermined Apollos and heretically claimed I became your father. While this is a generalization, many of the rabbinic debates of the first century come down to the opinion of Hillel versus Shammai. Im sorry that Christians cant come to grips in their confirmation bias that both Yeshua and Pauls ministries was infact Judaism. To know the truth is a blessing from Allah, if I had to guess you just have not been taught what Islam teaches, and we honor all Prophets (pbut) revere the 12 Apostles and have never acknowledged that Paul was one of Jesus (p) Apostles, but have always known he was responsible for the corruption of the Truth about God and the Messiah (p). I think that we should use Pauls training from Gamaliel as a background to understanding his theology because most of his theology is based off of his human teacher and was added on by the Holy Spirit. (seriously, when have a much of Jews or Christians agreed on anything? What was Paul's purpose in the Bible? For example, when Jesus was speaking about a new command I give you, Jesus didnt say THE new commandment, or the FIRST commandment, or the MOST IMPORTANT commandment, or the ONE commandment, or the GREATEST commandment, or ONE RULE. because he said so. It is necessary to choose one of the men who have been with us the whole time the Lord Jesus went in and out among us, beginning from Johns baptism to the time when Jesus was taken up from us. I would like to check that reference if possible. Wrong. We cannot prove that Judas was present at that time, and we cannot prove that Matthias was absent at that time when Jesus spoke those words. Whom did Paul study under? We should follow the Jesus of the Gospel writers. In Galatians 1:21, Paul wrote, "I went into the regions of Syria and Cilicia .". Paul has a track record in Scripture of boasting, exaggerating, and stretching the truth to promote himself and make himself appear more important than he really was. When he was younger, he used to have the great theological insight about territorial spirits and wrestling with dark angels. If the LORD Yahweh, and His Son Yeshua the Jewish Messiah is God, follow Him; but if Paal is God, follow him. According to the Hebrew Bible, the tabernacle (Hebrew: , mishkn, meaning "residence" or "dwelling place"), also known as the Tent of the Congregation ( 'hel m', also Tent of Meeting, etc. Let every matter be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses, as it says in the Law ! we only see him make use of those things POST conversion, this is true enough, but we do not really have a very large database of material to assess Pauls Hellenistic worldview prior to his conversion. it seems like Gamaliels statement would be a good point to make in sharing the gospel message with people of the Jewish faith. 3). Now Ive got 3 slots open. The false teaching about one rule is the false teaching of the Pharisees of Pauls day, and Paul the Pharisee was pushing this false teaching. The man throws his huge sombrero hat on the floor, and the couple dances around it, but never steps on the hat. But i am just speculating here. It seems that people want to limit the intervention of God in the lives of people he intends to use. We know that as a young man Paul studied under the tutelage of Rabbi Gamaliel in Tarsus, who provided him with an expert knowledge of the Hebrew Scriptures ( Acts 22:3 ). What is undisputed is that Gamaliel was "held in . Return to your own blog and post this stuff. With respect to Hellenism, Hillel was more open to Hellenism than Shammai and was therefore more open to cooperation with the Romans. We can now understand as they did then, what God wills, what Christ said, and His ambassadors taught. Beware of the NAR whale its really a killer whale with a man-made horn strapped on top. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. Calling the Twelve to him, he sent them out two by two and gave them authority over evil spirits. [Mark 6:6-7], .2) Gospel of Luke time lag between being appointed and being sent One of those days Jesus went out to a mountainside to pray, and spent the night praying to God. Paul claims to have been educated by Gamaliel, one of the premier teachers of the Law in the first century. Im horrified that youre taking Jewish writings and making crazy stories out of them.. St. Paul is simply an elect vessel, as an Apostle! About The Author Tovia Singer - Rabbi Tovia Singer is well known as the Founder and Director of Outreach Judaism, an international organization dedicated to countering the efforts of fundamentalist Christian groups and cults who specifically target Jews for conversion. 2 : any of numerous moths whose gregarious larvae spin communal nests usually in trees. But the testimonies of the era indicate he would have become a ward and trainee of Gamaliel in the age range of 10-14. Then, in Acts 22:3, Paul says that he was "brought up in this . Therefore, what Saul was taught was not based off of Gods truth. Who was the famous Jewish teacher under whom St. Paul studied? Yahweh is the path to freedom, not Paul. Im following Jesus. According to Josephus (Life 38.190-191), Gamaliel belonged to "a highly respected family"; there is no good reason to reject the early Jewish tradition that he was the grandson (or perhaps . (11). when did congress pass the noahide laws; what is monzo building society account? The game the dogs play is the same today, Except now they do it on blogs. These would be lofty words for a law abiding Pharisee to be speaking and Paul obviously saw Christ as the laws fulfillment. Then again youre the one creating a construct that Paul was Shammai. Which is why he had to go to Sinai (which is in current day Saudi Arabia). Who was Paul's mentor in his study of Judaism? symphony kitchen spares; pink lily holiday dresses; hitch installation near me. He had nowhere to sleep, and had to go stay in a hotel for several days. Even if Judas was physically present, as we all realize now, he was not a true follower of Jesus. Mantra (noun) (Hinduism.) However, as he got farther along in his faith and was eventually converted to Christianity, he became more like a Hillelite which was what Gamaliel was. The followers of Yeshua and Shaul were not called Christians. Wright (and others) point out that Gamaliel II seems more, er, pacifist Acts, while Paul seems to want to zealously pursue those who are accusing the High Priest of killing an innocent man. Matthias was qualified, appointed, and later recognized as part of The Twelve. Paul wrote 29 chapters to this church that he founded and then left after 18 months, and also we have Lukes biographical account starting in Acts 18:1. His training at the feet of Gamaliel (Acts 22:3) according to the strict manner of the law of the Jews. What is an Apostle? Here is the answer based on the original sources: The words and actions of Jesus and the Original Apostles in the text of the New Testament. You who were formerly known as gentiles. Although he was born in Tarsus in Cilicia, Paul spent a considerable amount of time in Jerusalem under the tutelage of Gamaliel in the strict manner of the law of the Jews (Acts 22:3). I wrote a short note on Pauls relationship with Gamaliel two years ago and it has been one of the more popular posts on Reading Acts. Peter was from the school of Shammi and Shaul was clearly from Hillel and we see this when these two Pharisee argue with each other on various topics. His voice is so much greater Than paul the Pharisee. Jesus warned us about the Pharisees in Matthew chapters 15 & 16, and quoted the Prophet Isaiah regarding them: These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. But he certainly reinforces your prejudice and misunderstanding of the New Testament. I remember the general approach to the Bible at Dallas being that every word in the 66 Books is the Word of God.. and we should interpret it based on the intended meaning of the author in the historical grammatical context.. Yes I agree its a commandment given by Jesus, its not optional, and it applies to us today. He states not only is he a Pharisee, but where he studied and what tribe he is from. But he also gave the Holy Spirit something to work with! .1) Gospel of Mark time lag between being appointed and being sent Jesus went up on a mountainside and called to him those he wanted, and they came to him. Do you have a Biblical basis for your response? The Apostle Paul met him during his second missionary journey and he became Paul's companion and missionary partner along with Silas. They make Paul the center, not Jesus. For example, are we missing any casuistry from Gamaliel which might demonstrate Gamaliels dissent from Hillel in specific cases presenting unique facts? Then those who finished the garage can go help the others finish the house., One worker objected: But Boss Paul, those were not the owners instructions! Mantra: ..and Muhammad is his prophet., .3) Paul the Pharisee, the self-appointed Apostle to the Gentiles, whose 13 letters comprise one third of what, today, we call the New Testament. (The first, original New Testament was composed by the second century heretic Marcion, and he coined the term New Testament. His new book contained nothing except 10 of Pauls letters and an abbreviated Gospel of Luke. For these reasons, it seems highly unlikely that Paul isolated himself for the purpose of study during these "Lost Years.". You have a rather closed worldview and are blind to what I have said. He just doesnt suddenly become submission to government and punishment, or in his words a prisoner of Jesus Christ. He is, at least, in some small way returning to what he could have been taught by Gamaliel. So what is the application of this parable? When Hillel died in 10 AD, his son Simon (Gamaliel's father) took over Hillel's position as the nasi, which means president, of the Sanhedrin. You seem to parrot some of his words in your replies. Its not like there is a reason to believe a man who said, If my FALSEHOODS abound to Gods glory why am I being judged a sinner.?. Nowhere. Im sorry that Christians cant come to grips in their confirmation bias that both Yeshua and Pauls ministries was infact Judaism.. What were Pauls specific sins as a Christian? brought up . ), STEP 5) Paul said; I do not understand what I do. Why follow a self-appointed voice that has given itself a special title like immaculate conception prophet apostle to the gentiles? Jesus is in agreement with the Law and the Prophets and came to fulfill them. [Matthew 5:17-20]. One hint is the resistance to Pauline Christianity by both Second Temple Judaism and more conservative Jewish Christians like James.Most scholars of the period talk about early Judaisms, plural, since there was in fact a range of practice and belief in the first century. If you think Im wrong, Jesus commands you (Matthew chapter 18) to show me my fault. Pauls athletic references are too pervasive in his letters for him to have shared the antipathy that some Jews felt toward the games. imitate me.. Calling him a good man (Acts 11:24), a prophet and teacher (13:1), an apostle (14:14) and one through whom God worked miracles (15:12), Acts loads him with accolades. You can hover over the pic and it will say that (or at least it did for me in Firefox). We dont have time for debates about which one is first. Yet Jesus is the object of worship, turned into a false god believed to be confirmed in a book that actually refutes it! Philo of Alexandria can be thought of as more moderate to liberal on the Law, his brother completely rejected his Jewish heritage (providing the most extreme position possible). But after Paul went solo without Barnabas [Acts 15] I see no record that Paul ever appointed any elders in any church anywhere. There is absolutely no Christianity in the book of Acts.. As a Roman citizen, Paul possessed a coveted status I meant to say for rejecting Mohammed (p) and worshipping a man who said worship God alone, Jesus (p), and adding a third God to the 1 and His son making a pagan Trinity, Christianity is anathema to its worshipped human founder (in name only and in Greek at that) who said OUR God is ONE worship HIM!. They elevate the 4 Gospels above all other Scriptures, giving the 2 highest places of honor to the Gospels of Matthew and John and they have a special high place for Revelation too. If you dont ask about Pauls sins, I wont tell about them. You said that your QUOTE Quran is incorruptible. Thats like many Christians saying the Bible is inerrant. Muhammad is to Muslims as Paul is to most Christians as Mary is to most Catholics an idol that they worship, practically speaking. When morning came, he called his disciples to him and chose twelve of them, whom he also designated apostles: Simon.. [Luke 6:12-14], Again three chapters later, When Jesus had called the Twelve together, he gave them power and authority to drive out all demons and to cure diseases, and he sent them out to preach the kingdom of God and to heal the sick. [Luke 9:1-2], .3) Gospel of Matthew which is organized by theme, not necessarily in chronological order. Even Festus said that Paul was very learned, Acts 26:24. Both Yeshua and Pauls ministries are simply another sect of Judaism. Yes, this subject can get indepth, but I think it is better myself to keep it simple, and what we can know, from Scripture itself. Gamaliel taught between A.D. 22-55, giving us an approximate early date for Paul's education. For one of these must become a witness with us of his resurrection. [Acts 1:21-22]. In Philippians Paul describes himself as a Diaspora Jew who claimed to have been raised in a family which kept the Jewish traditions faultlessly. That is the order of address in near eastern culture and especially the Sanhedrin, being the Nazarite or the one ran by corrupted Pharisee and Sadducee. Something Paul preaches repeatedly. These are the names of the twelve apostles: first, Simon [Matthew 10:1]. He appointed twelve designating them apostles that they might be with him [Mark 3:13-14], Three chapters later, Then Jesus went around teaching from village to village. Heres part two of this poem this spot seems the most appropriate place, I am he who searches hearts and minds says the Risen Jesus Christ Repent and do what you did at first Dont be lazy since He paid the price, Yes, Jesus sees our sins today Dont think that He is blind But the words of paul the Pharisee Will put you in a bind, Jesus washed away your sins Dont listen to paul the accuser paul abandoned the Church in Corinth And then paul became an abuser, When you put your trust in Jesus Yes, your stains were white as snow You didnt need to wear a Scarlet Letter Everywhere you go, I will repay each of you According to your deeds This is Jesus speaking to The Church Not a business selling felt needs, For those who claim to be apostles Jesus said they must be tested Priscilla, Aquila, and Apollos Persevered and were not bested, They exposed the false teachings Of paul the Pharisee So the Church in Ephesus rejected paul And had a chance to be free, Bibliography All quotes are the words of Jesus, in Revelation Chapter 2, Do we know what language was spoken in Gamaliels school or likely to have been spoken Hebrew or Aramaic? 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